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PamplinMan	Column Mode Clarification	Lead	[-]
Posts: 14 (02/26/08 11:16:05) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None The Terrain Effects Chart says tracked units cannot move into a city hex unless in column mode but I don't see anything that prohibits those tracked units from being in city hexes not in column mode. By inference, I assume they can go out of column mode in a city hex but if they want to move, they will have to get back in column mode. Good assumption? I'm thinking of tanks moving in to take out Frost's men. Jim
Adam Starkweather		#1	[-]
Posts: 17 (02/26/08 11:28:26) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Nope. Tracked or wheeled units may never leave column when in city hexes (or other terrain so marked on the TEC). You can use tanks on Frost but they will be at a disadvantage in the city.
nrichard9		#2	[-]
Posts: 93 (02/26/08 15:57:13) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	PamplinMan wrote: The Terrain Effects Chart says tracked units cannot move into a city hex unless in column mode but I don't see anything that prohibits those tracked units from being in city hexes not in column mode. By inference, I assume they can go out of column mode in a city hex but if they want to move, they will have to get back in column mode. Good assumption? I'm thinking of tanks moving in to take out Frost's men. Jim Jim, Check out the terrain descriptions in the exclusive rules book, 2.8, 2.9, 2.10: 2.9: "A Wheeled or Tracked Unit in a City hex may not leave Column. "
EdouardK		#3	[-]
Posts: 6 (05/07/08 13:22:08) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Is it always true for a infantry unit or a gun unit mounted on vehicles ? That is : could a tracked or wheeled unit in column in towns or cities exit Transport mode and flip over to its non-vehicle side or should it exit Transport mode before entering town or city hex ?
EdouardK		#4	[-]
Posts: 6 (05/07/08 13:27:07) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Is it always true for a infantry unit or a gun unit mounted on vehicles ? That is : could a tracked or wheeled unit in column in towns or cities exit Transport mode and flip over to its non-vehicle side or should it exit Transport mode before entering town or city hex ?
nrichard9		#5	[-]
Posts: 93 (05/07/08 13:50:03) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yes they can. When a dismount take place, a Unit can either be in column or not, at the owner's choice (see 14.10.3. in the Series Rules).
EdouardK		#6	[-]
Posts: 6 (05/08/08 02:46:51) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Reciprocally, can a unit directly "mounting up" in column in a city or town hex or must it first be in column and then "mounting up" (and keep its column marker) as suggested by 14.10.2 ? Thanks in advance
nrichard9		#7	[-]
Posts: 93 (05/08/08 05:58:40) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	The unit must first be in column to mount up in a hex that requires a vehicle to be in column.
Viboranegra		#8	[-]
Posts: 3 (06/28/08 01:18:12) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Adam Starkweather wrote: Nope. Tracked or wheeled units may never leave column when in city hexes (or other terrain so marked on the TEC). You can use tanks on Frost but they will be at a disadvantage in the city. According to Series Rules 14.6: "You remove the Column marker by paying one movement point (...) or by taking a cohesion hit..." So if a unit which can only be in Column in some terrain (like a Tank in a city) takes a Cohesion Hit result being in Column, is it destroyed, or remains in Column?
MButtazoni		#9	[-]
Posts: 4 (06/28/08 03:52:22) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	no matter what the terrain, when a unit takes a cohesion hit it stays in column if it was in Column. The 14.6 "taking a cohesion hit" is a voluntary thing you can do to leave column not a combat result. taking a cohesion hit to leave column allows 2 things: 1) it does not generate an opportunity fire attack 2) it allows you to leave column in the same Action that you spent 1 MP to enter Column. Last Edited By: MButtazoni 06/28/08 03:55:55. Edited 1 times.
Viboranegra		#10	[-]
Posts: 3 (06/29/08 12:51:23) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Oh, bad translation by my side. Thank you!
Moustache Mike	Column Mode	#11	[-]
Posts: 1 (07/25/08 09:31:17) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	When a unit that has generic transportation (on the flip side) is in transportation mode do you have a column marker placed on it when in restricted hexes such as city or town hexes. Therefore suffering the +2 mod for def on the column marker. this would be in addition to the def rating on the transportation side. Is that correct or is this all taken into account on the transportation side of the counter. Hope that is clear.
nrichard9		#12	[-]
Posts: 93 (07/25/08 17:12:25) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yes, you have to place the column marker on the unit when it's on its transport side and it is in column. So it's get the +2 for the column marker, plus the defense rating of the transport side (many of these are +2 or +3).

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